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Do You think Christian Rap is ok ?
What do you think about christian rap...do you think you should only listen to songs without heavy beat?
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GlobalPermalink Reply by harlow johnson on -
Lejone rap might not secular (its a religion) do some research. mine shows that it was create to glorify self, and ultimately the devil.
Lejone said:I was more than a little confused by your equations: Christian = holy & rap = secular. There are those, myself included, who would vehemently disagree. I'm going to assume that you weren't saying that both sets of words are synonymous because that is what would make no sense. [I'm also going to assume that you might not a fan of the subgenres Christian rock and roll, Christian alternative or perhaps even Christian country]. =) But enough with my assumptions (you know what they say about assumptions!)
For my own clarification, I looked up the words 'secular' and 'holy'. Allow me to share some of my favorite definitions.
SECULAR: of or pertaining to worldly things or to things that are not regarded as religious, spiritual, or sacred; not pertaining to or connected with religion (opposed to sacred), concerned with nonreligious subjects, worldly rather than spiritual, relating to or advocating secularism, of or pertaining to this present world, or to things not spiritual or holy; relating to temporal as distinguished from eternal interests, of or relating to the doctrine that rejects religion and religious considerations
Using these dictionary.com definitions, Christian rap is NOT secular.
HOLY: dedicated or devoted to the service of God, the church, or religion, specified or set apart for a religious purpose, set apart to the service or worship of God, spiritually whole or sound; of unimpaired innocence and virtue; free from sinful affections; pure in heart; godly; pious; irreproachable; guiltless; acceptable to God.
Interesting fact:On Dictionary.com, I didn't see the word 'Christian' in the list of synonyms and examples listed for 'holy'. The 'Sabbath' is there though. =)
While rap is indeed a genre, it is essentially a style of music (as I might add is country). So while there are hillbillies who may drunkenly croon about their wayward lovers or running over roadkill with their pickup truck, the Gaithers, for instance, have created beautiful songs of praise to the Lord in this style of music. Same goes for Christian rap/hip hop artists who are using those mediums to make music for His glory.
I'm curious to know what authority mandated that 'all Christian music wasn't meant to have a worldly or secular beat." Did Aunt Ellen (White)? Better yet, has God mentioned it in scripture? Do tell. My inquiring mind would love to know. =)
Christopher Coombs said:Ok first of all the sub-genre 'Christian Rap' makes no sense at all mainly because there is no such thing; Christian=holy, Rap=secular. Second of all Christian music wasn't meant to have a worldly or secular beat. Thirdly it all depends on the content of the music.
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GlobalPermalink Reply by Bryan Alexander on -
There is no such thing as Christian rap. Its just rapmusic and Christian music. If you wrap a twix bar with snickers wrapping does it make it snickers or is it just twix? It's the same thing, ask urself, what would Jesus do? If u r a Christian that means u r a follower of Christ ,hence u want a character as His, would He listen to rap disguised as Christian rap?
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GlobalPermalink Reply by Trenton Francis on -
U would have to consider the fact that some Gospel music (like Kirk Franklin , mary mary , etc) has a certain melody and rhythm that's similar to R&B-type music. There's times when I hear a gospel song and don't realize that it's gospel until someone tells me the artist that sings it. For some reason , Gospel rap is negatively looked upon because of it's secular origin. But if u do ur research , where did Gospel music as we know it today originate from? Some of the hymns we sing in church were originally CLASSICAL music (such as "Joyful , Joyful we adore thee" , which was 'Ode to Joy" by Beethoven). There are so many "sub-genres" of gospel music but only gospel rap is looked down upon..why? What about carribean-style gospel that alot of west-indians listen to? Nobody's talking about that. I dont wanna get off topic but Im just encouraging ppl to OPEN THEIR MINDS , because Gospel rap isn't the only type of music that has a "secular beat".
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GlobalPermalink Reply by june allen villanueva on -
Paul Ryan Henderson said:I agree with you completely
Lejone said:Hey girl! Happy Sabbath. I'm glad you asked this question. I just shared your question with my sister who is sitting right next to me. (I've been telling her for weeks to join Adventist Youth Space but she's taking her own sweet time). Anywho, she and I are avid listeners to certain Christian hip hop artists, namely those who belong to the Cross Movement (www.crossmovementrecords.com & www.reachrecords.com). Some of our favorites are Da Truth, Flame, Lecrae, Tedashi, Trip Lee, Ambassador, and Sho Baraka. We've had the privilege of seeing most of them in concert. I must tell you that I wasn't always into Christian rap/hip hop. In fact, my first exposure to it was some music I heard by the duo Grits and them some incredibly weak rhymes done by T-Bone (but lemme not go off on a tangent about them). lol
I believe it's important when determining if something is 'good' or 'bad' to test it against the word of God. 1 John 4:1 [ Test the Spirits ] states 'Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God,' My sister's response to your question is as follows 'Not every Christian rap artist out there bring glory and honor to God. We know for sure that the primary motive of secular rap artists is not to bring glory and honor to God but to themselves.It's not the medium of rap music that's 'wrong'. What it comes down to is who gets the glory and whose story is being told'. I couldnt' have said it better myself. The artists that I've mentioned use a range of beats (and I must say that their DJ- DJ Official- is insane). A person who doesnt take the time to listen to their lyrics could easily get caught up in the beat. But even still, it would be very difficult to miss the message. I've got to quickly mention that I don't really get bogged down in the whole argument about not listening to songs with a heavy beat. A hot beat doesn't necessarily make or break a song. Also, there are a-plenty of 'spiritual slow jams' that don't make an ounce of sense or just plain suck. What I especially love/admire/appreciate about their music is that is straight up scriptural. Tell me, how many Christian songs do we listen to that make us run and get a Bible/go deeper in the word right afterward? Many of them leave me confused. Sometimes I have to decipher whether they were actually talking about Jesus...and that's a real shame.
My sis also wanted me to mention that the spirit of and behind these artists that I mentioned is completely different. They've made their music into ministry. They pray together, do missions together; they are, essentially a band of brothers. They are men of standard (do you remember that old school Christian group? They were so good back in the day.) Now don't get me wrong, I often find myself wondering how these guys could be so deep in their word and not yet stumbled on the Sabbath truth. But we know that keeping the Sabbath or not is not going to be the sole ticket to getting into heaven. Hopefully the same Spirit that convicts you and me will 'guide them into all truth'. But getting back to the issue, I am convicted and convinced that the heart/motives/spirit behind the Christian rap artists I mentioned are 'good'. Using my scriptural tests, I feel their music is 'ok' for me to listen to.
I'd love to hear other's opinions on this topic and your thoughts as well. =)
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GlobalPermalink Reply by june allen villanueva on -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBjDUSvTR0A&feature=related
check out this song
and read the lyrics
i think music is like a religion they are all preaching Gods gospel but not the same doctrines like music they are christian rap but the question is who sing is he a followers of the truth:::: i hope you'll get my point like a pastor preaching on stage his preaching about god but not the faith that was given by god is he telling the truths or just deceiving us i want you to watch the link and i found something wrong about it,,like going to Sunday on church instead of Saturday..
guys music can be deceiving how about just open your hymnal books and just sing with you hearts not to depend those rap songs
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GlobalPermalink Reply by june allen villanueva on -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBjDUSvTR0A&feature=related
check out this song
and read the lyrics
i think music is like a religion they are all preaching Gods gospel but not the same doctrines like music they are christian rap but the question is who sing is he a followers of the truth:::: i hope you'll get my point like a pastor preaching on stage his preaching about god but not the faith that was given by god is he telling the truths or just deceiving us i want you to watch the link and i found something wrong about it,,like going to Sunday on church instead of Saturday..
guys music can be deceiving how about just open your hymnal books and just sing with you hearts not to depend those rap songs
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GlobalPermalink Reply by june allen villanueva on -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBjDUSvTR0A&feature=related
check out this song
and read the lyrics
i think music is like a religion they are all preaching Gods gospel but not the same doctrines like music they are christian rap but the question is who sing is he a followers of the truth:::: i hope you'll get my point like a pastor preaching on stage his preaching about god but not the faith that was given by god is he telling the truths or just deceiving us i want you to watch the link and i found something wrong about it,,like going to Sunday on church instead of Saturday..
guys music can be deceiving how about just open your hymnal books and just sing with you hearts not to depend those rap songs
Lejone said:Hey girl! Happy Sabbath. I'm glad you asked this question. I just shared your question with my sister who is sitting right next to me. (I've been telling her for weeks to join Adventist Youth Space but she's taking her own sweet time). Anywho, she and I are avid listeners to certain Christian hip hop artists, namely those who belong to the Cross Movement (www.crossmovementrecords.com & www.reachrecords.com). Some of our favorites are Da Truth, Flame, Lecrae, Tedashi, Trip Lee, Ambassador, and Sho Baraka. We've had the privilege of seeing most of them in concert. I must tell you that I wasn't always into Christian rap/hip hop. In fact, my first exposure to it was some music I heard by the duo Grits and them some incredibly weak rhymes done by T-Bone (but lemme not go off on a tangent about them). lol
I believe it's important when determining if something is 'good' or 'bad' to test it against the word of God. 1 John 4:1 [ Test the Spirits ] states 'Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God,' My sister's response to your question is as follows 'Not every Christian rap artist out there bring glory and honor to God. We know for sure that the primary motive of secular rap artists is not to bring glory and honor to God but to themselves.It's not the medium of rap music that's 'wrong'. What it comes down to is who gets the glory and whose story is being told'. I couldnt' have said it better myself. The artists that I've mentioned use a range of beats (and I must say that their DJ- DJ Official- is insane). A person who doesnt take the time to listen to their lyrics could easily get caught up in the beat. But even still, it would be very difficult to miss the message. I've got to quickly mention that I don't really get bogged down in the whole argument about not listening to songs with a heavy beat. A hot beat doesn't necessarily make or break a song. Also, there are a-plenty of 'spiritual slow jams' that don't make an ounce of sense or just plain suck. What I especially love/admire/appreciate about their music is that is straight up scriptural. Tell me, how many Christian songs do we listen to that make us run and get a Bible/go deeper in the word right afterward? Many of them leave me confused. Sometimes I have to decipher whether they were actually talking about Jesus...and that's a real shame.
My sis also wanted me to mention that the spirit of and behind these artists that I mentioned is completely different. They've made their music into ministry. They pray together, do missions together; they are, essentially a band of brothers. They are men of standard (do you remember that old school Christian group? They were so good back in the day.) Now don't get me wrong, I often find myself wondering how these guys could be so deep in their word and not yet stumbled on the Sabbath truth. But we know that keeping the Sabbath or not is not going to be the sole ticket to getting into heaven. Hopefully the same Spirit that convicts you and me will 'guide them into all truth'. But getting back to the issue, I am convicted and convinced that the heart/motives/spirit behind the Christian rap artists I mentioned are 'good'. Using my scriptural tests, I feel their music is 'ok' for me to listen to.
I'd love to hear other's opinions on this topic and your thoughts as well. =)
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GlobalPermalink Reply by Denesia Paul on -
What can relate to when I, as a non-christian, hears that kind of music for instance in a passing car what do i think wow that person is a christian? Never. Some say that this is the type of music that brings some people to God, and while I agree with that, I think that when we grow, we cut off old ways. What we identify with is sooo important in the last days guys, be ye not deceived. A church and people of God are those who are set apart, who are UNLIKE the world. Take a look at what rap is today and where it came from, who are the people that represent rap? You make your decision, I've made mine. Another thing, it doesn't get me in a spirit of worship either... Love u, Happy Sabbath all!"?
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GlobalPermalink Reply by Gylian Regina Adhiambo on -
We sing to praise God and as we sing the song should bring us close to God. So do you think when you are rapping you get close to God? God is our maker and as we go to him we should be as humble as possible. So us you rap are humble be for Him?
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